[Slow nod to the first part--]

[Then a headshake about Thatch.] No. He hates this place. [Hand over his eyes, trying to think again.] He wants to fight, but even trying, I can't work up enough of a fight to calm him down. Maybe Ace can.

They're both... logia. So it's different. No bird brain instincts for them, just fire and darkness.

And Namur's a shark so he half gets it. The wanting to bite things at least, eh.