Ace thinks the same of himself. ["Good-for-nothing" and "mostly worthless" in Ace's case, but tomato, tomahto. Don't even get get Marco started on Thatch's self-image issues, he could go on for days about that one.] And Thatch considers himself darkness itself personified and somehow the one who holds us all back. Because he's an idiot, but aside from that flaw, he's not much what he thinks he is at all.

You aren't convincing me, eh.